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SERIOUS ROLLCAGE QUESTION

Discussion in '1000: S, XP, & Highlifter, 2 & 4 seat' started by Gold Digger, Jan 3, 2018.

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  1. Gold Digger

    Gold Digger Frank SXS Nation Rookie

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    I have a 2017 RZR 1000 XP rocks Edition. did not do much research on side by sides before I bought it. I have a friend that was concerned that I bought it and told me about a story that one of his friends on a Kawasaki flipped a side by side front over and collapsed roll cage, he is now paralyzed. So my question may be a stupid one but how secure is the factory roll cage on these RZRs. I don't think in my mind they would design a roll cage that can't withstand a rollover. Has anybody had any experience with rollovers is this something I should be concerned about. The last thing I want to do is roll it over ,that would probably be the worst day of my life but if it happens will I be protected. I know instances you never know but I don't plan to roll it at a hundred miles an hour so it would basically be straight over probably.
     
  2. Curt

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    Factory roll cages don't compare to aftermarket. They usually bend even on minor rollovers. They will protect you to a degree. I've been considering reinforcing my factory General cage. The only reason I haven't bought an aftermarket cage is because I really like the available accessories for it.
     
  3. Pede

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    I would question the round bar cages like the older rangers have, once they started forming this adds a lot of rigidity, Subaru has been doing this for years and their formed B pillars are almost impossible to cut with all but the most powerful extraction tools. I've head ROPS thrown around from time to time and I really have no idea with these cages but have never seen where they are certified.
     
  4. rocksalot

    rocksalot James SXS Nation Regular

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    The Kawasaki cage is like two squares side by side with no triangular support.
    The RZR 1000 is triangulated at the rear to lessen the tendency to fold up.
    It is not a direct comparison but I rolled an Ace 4 times down a hill endo and the cage held up great.
    Yes, it was bent but it didn't collapse.
     
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    rocksalot James SXS Nation Regular

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    The cage is ROPS certified, but I think that certification is just a crawling speed flip over on to the top under controlled conditions..
     
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    For my work I see A LOT of rolled over SXS's. Most are at lower speeds (30 or less) or on the dunes. The cages will typically bend, but I have not personally seen one collapse. I'm sure with enough speed one could fold up...there are pics on the internet of course. I think there are some additional supports you can also get that will bolt to the cage to firm it up too. As Curt already said, the aftermarket cages are stronger, but then you forego a lot of OEM accessories like doors, roofs, windshields, etc.
     
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    Campbell 305 Steve SXS Nation Rookie

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    My experience with cages and rollovers has lead me to using quality after market cages. My understanding is that a stock ROPS certified cage is good for 1 roll. Not multiple rolls during one accident. I put my old jagged x rzr end over end at glamis going pretty slow following someone who turned last second and I continued straight. So happens it was a pretty steep 40' drop. My wife and I did one complete flip after our front end dug in. First hit was on the back half with the next hit being the front half of our roof. We ultimately slammed down extremely hard on our wheels. Needless to say, the front end was ripped off along with most
    of the plastics. Our doors were jambed shut and the cage had collapsed pretty bad. Luckily we had our helmets on and the cage held up enough. However, if we would have made more than one rotation that stock cage would of collapsed completely down resulting in a longer hospital visit for my wife I believe. Sooooo, my opinion is get a high quality after market cage. Bolted together cages just don't have what it takes for these machines of today. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Gold Digger Frank SXS Nation Rookie

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    Holy S.... that would be the end for the SXS. My wife would freak... Man I am glad you guys are OK. So Definitely slow for me. Hanging out with wife . Need to get a stereo. Lol. If I want excitement I will ride my Honda CRF450r lol.
     
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    My understanding of ROPS certified, and I come from the equipment side, first off it's special steel or at least treated like that on the factory floor and it will hold the weight of whatever it's applied on. If I'm wrong please correct me.
     
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    READ THIS >>>>>>>
     
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    Oilcan Steve SXS Nation Rookie

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    wrong thread sorry
     
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    I went end over end twice. Crushed the cage, in fact if someone would have been behind driver in back seat they would have had serious head trauma. no one hurt but sore. Insurance totaled rzr and I pretty much got all $$ back, incl sales tax. Had a hard time convincing wife to get another money pit and start all over again. Now proud owner of 17 xpt 4 that sat for about 1 1/2 months waiting for an aftermarket roll cage. That was painful. End of story I would strongly suggest an aftermarket roll cage! IMG_0129.JPG
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    Wow, that one crushed pretty bad. Glad you guys were ok.
     
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    I've wondered about this myself. I thought the factory cages would have to be strong to avoid lawsuits, but after seeing pics for the last few years you could see they are exactly as some of you describe here.
     
  15. Rockin Ronnie

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    I think the factory cages are okay for a rollover but a end for end is a dif. story! looks like the bolts failed on the rear of cage and then it was all over.
     
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    I agree with you Ron, several bolts busted but some where just missing. I would think i would have noticed missing bolts but not sure. A couple welds broke also. IMG_0035.JPG IMG_0034.JPG
     
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    Its always a good idea to check roll cage bolts if loose then will break when twisted or stressed the shear rating is a lot less when loose then the break strength if tight. The rear cage bolts were loose on mine. glad everybody was ok. if the bolts would have not broke or missing then the cage would have held up better I would think
     
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    Wow that looked like a rough crash. Glad everyone is ok.
     

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